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		<title>By: /pd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David : Do you have an researchy papers on this &quot;TOA&quot; that you describe as the &quot;This recognition is at the core to a new breed of software - Task Orientated Application “TOA” that has codified tasks in a contained data centric environment resulting a “generic” solution useable in any part of the business.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David : Do you have an researchy papers on this &#8220;TOA&#8221; that you describe as the &#8220;This recognition is at the core to a new breed of software &#8211; Task Orientated Application “TOA” that has codified tasks in a contained data centric environment resulting a “generic” solution useable in any part of the business.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Chassels</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2006/03/is-automation-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-5040</link>
		<dc:creator>David Chassels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion just highlights the typical way that IT confuses the message. A businessperson despairs at this double talk. He knows what he wants from IT - the ability for the business person to be understood in how he wants his business to run - and guess what that means what his people do. BPM at least goes in right direction in being almost his language &quot;workflow&quot; remains in techie land. The good news is that the movement has evolved to a TOA (Task Orientated Application) yes another TLA! TOA recognizes that business fundamentals do not change. Using proven technologies and working with a relational database a TOA has made conventional programming languages largely redundant for business solutions. A TOA separates business fundamentals from the technology lead delivery process. TOA recognizes there are only a dozen or so task types including links. These tasks definitions have been” codified&quot; as objects/services and liken the environment to a &quot;contained&quot; SOA - result a “generic” solution useable in any part of the business. This is all contained in a data-centric environment supporting software &quot;agility”. This is all built through an intuitive graphical designer and contains rules, state, events, calculations, BPM, workflow, user forms, roles, performers etc all in one contained environment. A TOA delivers real time reporting to address the 3 core business requirements - &quot;compliance, agility and performance management&quot;. The software industry has been long overdue for a technology leap towards maturity a TOA is that leap - workflow and BPM have been stepping stones no more - yes this will create FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) as both suppliers and businesses absorb the implications</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion just highlights the typical way that IT confuses the message. A businessperson despairs at this double talk. He knows what he wants from IT &#8211; the ability for the business person to be understood in how he wants his business to run &#8211; and guess what that means what his people do. BPM at least goes in right direction in being almost his language &#8220;workflow&#8221; remains in techie land. The good news is that the movement has evolved to a TOA (Task Orientated Application) yes another TLA! TOA recognizes that business fundamentals do not change. Using proven technologies and working with a relational database a TOA has made conventional programming languages largely redundant for business solutions. A TOA separates business fundamentals from the technology lead delivery process. TOA recognizes there are only a dozen or so task types including links. These tasks definitions have been” codified&#8221; as objects/services and liken the environment to a &#8220;contained&#8221; SOA &#8211; result a “generic” solution useable in any part of the business. This is all contained in a data-centric environment supporting software &#8220;agility”. This is all built through an intuitive graphical designer and contains rules, state, events, calculations, BPM, workflow, user forms, roles, performers etc all in one contained environment. A TOA delivers real time reporting to address the 3 core business requirements &#8211; &#8220;compliance, agility and performance management&#8221;. The software industry has been long overdue for a technology leap towards maturity a TOA is that leap &#8211; workflow and BPM have been stepping stones no more &#8211; yes this will create FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) as both suppliers and businesses absorb the implications</p>
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		<title>By: /pd</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2006/03/is-automation-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-5039</link>
		<dc:creator>/pd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>work flow is Work flow. [ pinpoint where work is real-time, gather all relevant data ..for the worker ]

As for BPM- I think,  we cannot say, just by looking at the results of the process, whether the process that created those results is capable of generating predictable outputs.

Therefore we must understand the process first--and then the he growth imperative is met and becomes sustainable  by understanding the forces that drive the process engine. -- it is with this understanding that BPM truely comes to being.

anyhoot...just my my 2 cents here :)-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>work flow is Work flow. [ pinpoint where work is real-time, gather all relevant data ..for the worker ]</p>
<p>As for BPM- I think,  we cannot say, just by looking at the results of the process, whether the process that created those results is capable of generating predictable outputs.</p>
<p>Therefore we must understand the process first&#8211;and then the he growth imperative is met and becomes sustainable  by understanding the forces that drive the process engine. &#8212; it is with this understanding that BPM truely comes to being.</p>
<p>anyhoot&#8230;just my my 2 cents here <img src='http://www.column2.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> -</p>
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