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	<title>Comments on: Seeking a BPM definition</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roeland, thanks for your comment. I agree with your more all-encompassing definition, although more peripheral areas such as quality management frameworks like Six Sigma are a bit debatable.

I was at a conference last week and discussing an SOA project with one of the exhibitors. I told him that I worked mostly in BPM, and he said "Oh, that's part of SOA". I informed him (with a smile) that those of us in BPM consider it the other way around. ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roeland, thanks for your comment. I agree with your more all-encompassing definition, although more peripheral areas such as quality management frameworks like Six Sigma are a bit debatable.</p>
<p>I was at a conference last week and discussing an SOA project with one of the exhibitors. I told him that I worked mostly in BPM, and he said &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s part of SOA&#8221;. I informed him (with a smile) that those of us in BPM consider it the other way around. <img src='http://www.column2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Roeland Loggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roeland Loggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandy,

Very true. In the talks I have with various people from various disciplines, I noted the same thing: a lack of a common definition. Unfortunately it sometimes even seem that people define BPM in their own way, claiming it as the true definition... 
For me BPM is an "umbrella" concept for things as...
- Managing processes as a management area
- Modelling, analysing, riskmanagement, compliance
- Process tracking and steering, BAM, KPI's etc
- BPMS, process automation (and so also SOA)
- Process improvement, and frameworks for that such as Lean, Six Sigma

And I am probably missing a lot of other area's :-)

Regards,
Roeland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy,</p>
<p>Very true. In the talks I have with various people from various disciplines, I noted the same thing: a lack of a common definition. Unfortunately it sometimes even seem that people define BPM in their own way, claiming it as the true definition&#8230;<br />
For me BPM is an &#8220;umbrella&#8221; concept for things as&#8230;<br />
- Managing processes as a management area<br />
- Modelling, analysing, riskmanagement, compliance<br />
- Process tracking and steering, BAM, KPI&#8217;s etc<br />
- BPMS, process automation (and so also SOA)<br />
- Process improvement, and frameworks for that such as Lean, Six Sigma</p>
<p>And I am probably missing a lot of other area&#8217;s <img src='http://www.column2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Regards,<br />
Roeland</p>
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