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	<title>Comments on: BEAParticipate: Using SOA Technologies with BPM</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Mariano. It was great to meet you in Atlanta, and I appreciate your follow-up comments in your blog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although I agree with you that BPM tools are targeted at multiple audiences spanning both business and IT, I find that BEA's offering (and I'm not sure whether it's the technology itself or the marketing spin) is more clearly aimed at IT -- even parts that I think should be creeping into the business side of the house. I made a comment in &#60;a href="http://www.column2.com/2007/05/beaparticipate-and-tucon-wrapups/" rel="nofollow"&#62;my wrap-up post&#60;/a&#62;, where I reviewed both the TIBCO and BEA conferences since I attended them back to back, which I feel holds true for your session and others that I attended:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;"Since both of these vendors are from the more technical integration space, and gained their BPM products by fairly recent acquisitions rather than organic growth (Staffware in the case of TIBCO, and Fuego in the case of BEA), the conferences were still quite focussed on technical rather than business attendees."&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mariano. It was great to meet you in Atlanta, and I appreciate your follow-up comments in your blog.</p>
<p>Although I agree with you that BPM tools are targeted at multiple audiences spanning both business and IT, I find that BEA&#8217;s offering (and I&#8217;m not sure whether it&#8217;s the technology itself or the marketing spin) is more clearly aimed at IT &#8212; even parts that I think should be creeping into the business side of the house. I made a comment in &lt;a href=&#8221;http://www.column2.com/2007/05/beaparticipate-and-tucon-wrapups/&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;&gt;my wrap-up post&lt;/a&gt;, where I reviewed both the TIBCO and BEA conferences since I attended them back to back, which I feel holds true for your session and others that I attended:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since both of these vendors are from the more technical integration space, and gained their BPM products by fairly recent acquisitions rather than organic growth (Staffware in the case of TIBCO, and Fuego in the case of BEA), the conferences were still quite focussed on technical rather than business attendees.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano Benitez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariano Benitez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy, thanks for your report on my session, I would like to share with you my comments on it, I wrote them in my &lt;a href="http://dev2dev.bea.com/blog/mbenitez/archive/2007/05/first_day_comme.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy, thanks for your report on my session, I would like to share with you my comments on it, I wrote them in my <a href="http://dev2dev.bea.com/blog/mbenitez/archive/2007/05/first_day_comme.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a>.</p>
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