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		<title>By: Column 2 by Sandy Kemsley : The next stage in the BPMG saga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Column 2 by Sandy Kemsley : The next stage in the BPMG saga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aretina</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2007/06/is-bpmg-imploding/#comment-5463</link>
		<dc:creator>Aretina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else here recently paid for BPMG training, did not receive the training, and are having trouble obtaining a refund?</description>
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		<title>By: From the inside</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2007/06/is-bpmg-imploding/#comment-5457</link>
		<dc:creator>From the inside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed very interesting to see the SAGA.  For many people closely involved with the BPMG however... not a surprise!!!  Steve has quite obviously fallen .... his past antics catching up on him.  BPMG.org ? a not for profit organisation or BPMG the front for commercial endeavours? ...    The later and not a good one at that.!!  The web site was always difficult to understand... It looks like BPMG forgot to review its own processes... allowing domains to be stolen... amongst other accusational comments ...  Steve talks about trust... forget it... move on... let BPMG die... the time has passed.... let Steve's Gartner award for his contribution to BPM industry be his thanks to the past master... and in with new Honest blood... Not Terry!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed very interesting to see the SAGA.  For many people closely involved with the BPMG however&#8230; not a surprise!!!  Steve has quite obviously fallen &#8230;. his past antics catching up on him.  BPMG.org ? a not for profit organisation or BPMG the front for commercial endeavours? &#8230;    The later and not a good one at that.!!  The web site was always difficult to understand&#8230; It looks like BPMG forgot to review its own processes&#8230; allowing domains to be stolen&#8230; amongst other accusational comments &#8230;  Steve talks about trust&#8230; forget it&#8230; move on&#8230; let BPMG die&#8230; the time has passed&#8230;. let Steve&#8217;s Gartner award for his contribution to BPM industry be his thanks to the past master&#8230; and in with new Honest blood&#8230; Not Terry!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is turning into a weird and wonderful saga. I find it hard to believe that the people involved have behaved this unprofessionally (stealing domain names?) then bragged about it publicly. I think that we're seeing an end to BPMG and its programs, although undoubtedly most of the content will be resurrected by Terry and Steve on the Bennu Group site. However, how far are you going to trust those involved in a caper like this?

Roeland, I also found the BPMG "methodologies" to be non-cohesive, and the name "8 Omega" always made me laugh since it seemed to be some sort of 6 Sigma joke. I'm not convinced that BPMG could have become a leader for best practices, since there was, as you state, a lot of recycled material from other sources rather than a lot of original thought leadership.

Stu, like you, I enjoyed the local chapter meeting here in Toronto, although that had little to do with BPMG content and more to do with the speaker and the networking with other BPM professionals. I'm sure that we can find another outlet for this sort of session; I had approached the ABPMP last year about a Toronto chapter and they wanted to help get it started, but with BPMG also starting a chapter I didn't think that we could support two so similar organizations here. However, if I can get a few others to help out, I might try to spearhead the local ABPMP again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is turning into a weird and wonderful saga. I find it hard to believe that the people involved have behaved this unprofessionally (stealing domain names?) then bragged about it publicly. I think that we&#8217;re seeing an end to BPMG and its programs, although undoubtedly most of the content will be resurrected by Terry and Steve on the Bennu Group site. However, how far are you going to trust those involved in a caper like this?</p>
<p>Roeland, I also found the BPMG &#8220;methodologies&#8221; to be non-cohesive, and the name &#8220;8 Omega&#8221; always made me laugh since it seemed to be some sort of 6 Sigma joke. I&#8217;m not convinced that BPMG could have become a leader for best practices, since there was, as you state, a lot of recycled material from other sources rather than a lot of original thought leadership.</p>
<p>Stu, like you, I enjoyed the local chapter meeting here in Toronto, although that had little to do with BPMG content and more to do with the speaker and the networking with other BPM professionals. I&#8217;m sure that we can find another outlet for this sort of session; I had approached the ABPMP last year about a Toronto chapter and they wanted to help get it started, but with BPMG also starting a chapter I didn&#8217;t think that we could support two so similar organizations here. However, if I can get a few others to help out, I might try to spearhead the local ABPMP again.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro?  hmmm.   Nothing as interesting as some juicy internet drama, but I liked the BPMG chapter meeting I attended.    oh well.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2007/06/is-bpmg-imploding/#comment-4990</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another day and more twists and turns in what can only be described as the BPMG “Soap Opera”. First out of the blocks was former CEO Steve Towers with an email including a link to his “open letter” (you can read it at &lt;a href="http://www.stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html)." rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html).&lt;/a&gt;  It is interesting to note that Steve states “I am doing everything in my power to ensure not only BPM Groups survival but its ongoing growth and success.” this would be good news to customers, members (and shareholders such as me), however today I also discovered that Bennu LLC, who list Steve Towers as nothing more than an associate (see &lt;a href="http://bennugroup.net/about/)," rel="nofollow"&gt;http://bennugroup.net/about/),&lt;/a&gt; may be being a little less than forthcoming with the truth. It seems that Steve Towers is in fact an officer of the company (click &lt;a href="http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&#038;Search_Nm=bennu%20&#038;Button=search&#038;Search_ID=32020327204" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&#038;Search_Nm=bennu%20&#038;Button=search&#038;Search_ID=32020327204&lt;/a&gt; and follow the link to “Officers And Directors Information”). 

So if I am reading this right, a company in which Steve is a Director has removed the BPMG website from another company in which he was a director and shareholder. At the same time preventing members/customers of one of his companies from being able to access the services for which they have paid.  Confused? Well I certainly I am. Hardly seems like the actions of someone with the interests of members, customers and shareholders at heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another day and more twists and turns in what can only be described as the BPMG “Soap Opera”. First out of the blocks was former CEO Steve Towers with an email including a link to his “open letter” (you can read it at <a href="http://www.stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html)." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html</a>).  It is interesting to note that Steve states “I am doing everything in my power to ensure not only BPM Groups survival but its ongoing growth and success.” this would be good news to customers, members (and shareholders such as me), however today I also discovered that Bennu LLC, who list Steve Towers as nothing more than an associate (see <a href="http://bennugroup.net/about/)," rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://bennugroup.net/about/" rel="nofollow">http://bennugroup.net/about/</a>), may be being a little less than forthcoming with the truth. It seems that Steve Towers is in fact an officer of the company (click <a href="http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&#038;Search_Nm=bennu%20&#038;Button=search&#038;Search_ID=32020327204" rel="nofollow">http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&#038;Search_Nm=bennu%20&#038;Button=search&#038;Search_ID=32020327204</a> and follow the link to “Officers And Directors Information”). </p>
<p>So if I am reading this right, a company in which Steve is a Director has removed the BPMG website from another company in which he was a director and shareholder. At the same time preventing members/customers of one of his companies from being able to access the services for which they have paid.  Confused? Well I certainly I am. Hardly seems like the actions of someone with the interests of members, customers and shareholders at heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Roeland Loggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roeland Loggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the saga continues:

A recent newsletter from Steve Towers:
"The BPM community is in a state of hiatus currently. Many of us are suffering as a consequence. 
Read my perspective in my Openletter at &lt;a href="http://stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html&lt;/a&gt; "

If you go to that page...
(C) etc...

"Dear Colleague

As the major shareholder and founding member of what became the BPMG in 1992 and having single handedly, until 2003 worked in developing the community, I am doing everything within my power to ensure not only BPM Groups survival but its ongoing growth and success.

Here is a little background.
In 1992 I met with twelve colleagues representing companies in Europe and the United States to form ¨A forum for the exchange of information and advice to advance business performance through process management¨. Many of those original people are still my firm friends and some now head up global corporations. I will be forever grateful for the times we have shared.

Up until 2003 I fulfilled many roles for the community and we grew to over 9,000 members in more than 50 countries. I traveled extensively promoting our cause and visited over 40 countries, attended and talked at more than 100 conferences and had the very good fortune of making many friends in every culture on our planet.

I have occasionally been invited to collaborate on a number of books and in fact have written and contributed to more than seven including ¨An Executives Guide to BPR¨ (1994), ¨In Search of BPM Excellence: (2003), ¨The Real Time Enterprise¨, Thrive – How to Succeed in the Age of the Customer, ¨Extreme Competition¨, ¨Customer Expectation Management – Success without Exception¨. Of course there are others in the pipeline including ¨Rats on a Sinking Ship¨. The latter perhaps seems sadly more appropriate than I could ever have imagined when it was conceived last year!
Throughout the last 15 years I have worked with many of you to diligently push the cause of process management into every nook and cranny of our organizations. As a community we have achieved sometimes fantastic success and at other times provided a much needed wake up call to our colleagues and co-workers.

In 2003 having grown the BPMG to more than 9,000 members I was joined at the helm by David Lyneham-Brown and Stewart Ashton. Mr. Ashton is the man who has now assumed Executive control of the Group and you may have seen his ‘official’ note to the community last week.

I am saddened at the current troubles besetting the community and hope for all our sakes that the BPMG re-emerges with its original ethos intact. Be aware I am doing and will continue to do everything within my limited power to make it so.

To everyone I have shared and worked alongside  – thank you. To those who have recently written and telephoned with personal support and offers of help I am humbled and very grateful. You helped to create a wonderful thing and I sincerely wish you the very best for a brighter future. 

Kind Regards,  
 
Steve Towers - BPMG founder "



Hm. And then if you go to the website...

Welcome to Bennu Group LLC, the premier place to find the latest in thought leadership, training, workshops, conferences and resources related to all things process.

But why are you here?

You are here for a very simple reason. Due to delinquency of payment from the BPM Group to Bennu Group for services including operating the bpmg.org website you have been directed here where most of the core BPM Group staff have landed i.e. Terry Schurter, CIO; Alex Morse, Technical Director; Leah Morse, Chief Editor. Look for more on this particular subject soon  

We believe in the overall mission that we have always understood in respect to the BPM Group and we know we understand that mission far better than anyone else (with the possible exception of Steve Towers (stevetowers.com)who is one of our Training Coaches). We are taking the “bit in our mouths” to continue as the world’s leading organization in the pursuit of BPM Excellence.

We hope you stick around to see what we are doing and what we have to offer on our site. Our mission is clear and our will unrelenting - we will lead the charge in making people’s lives simpler, easier and more successful.

We hope we can do the same for you.

Regards,

The Bennu Group

Please Note:

The Bennu Group IS NOT affiliated with the BPM Group in any form or manner. We understand that the BPM Group has numerous commitments to many of you and though we sincerely would like to help you in determining the status of these commitments the Bennu Group does not have any means to take action or determine the status of any BPM Group activity or commitment.

Queries regarding BPM Group commitments or other business-related concerns are recommended to be sent to Stewart Ashton at stewart.ashton@btopenworld. This (to the best of our limited knowledge) is the new primary point of contact for the BPM Group.

We know this is a trying time (it is very much so for us as well) but we are confident that we will all get through this to a better, brighter place. Those of us at the Bennu Group that were associated with the BPM Group in the past are deeply saddened by the current situation. We can only say that for those who may feel they may have incurred financial risk in respect to commitments with the BPM Group that we are in the same boat with you.


OUCH....
I thought the BPMG organization was ok. Fairly good articles and RSS feed. 

True, the 8 Omega stuff didn't really seem to work. Omega and CEM seemed a collection of loose gems, basically taken from various sources, such as Lean, BPR, etc. 
But I do think that the BPM community needs organizations striving for BPM methods and best practices, and BPMG is (was?) a promising player...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the saga continues:</p>
<p>A recent newsletter from Steve Towers:<br />
&#8220;The BPM community is in a state of hiatus currently. Many of us are suffering as a consequence.<br />
Read my perspective in my Openletter at <a href="http://stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html" rel="nofollow">http://stevetowers.com/OpenLetter.html</a> &#8221;</p>
<p>If you go to that page&#8230;<br />
(C) etc&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Colleague</p>
<p>As the major shareholder and founding member of what became the BPMG in 1992 and having single handedly, until 2003 worked in developing the community, I am doing everything within my power to ensure not only BPM Groups survival but its ongoing growth and success.</p>
<p>Here is a little background.<br />
In 1992 I met with twelve colleagues representing companies in Europe and the United States to form ¨A forum for the exchange of information and advice to advance business performance through process management¨. Many of those original people are still my firm friends and some now head up global corporations. I will be forever grateful for the times we have shared.</p>
<p>Up until 2003 I fulfilled many roles for the community and we grew to over 9,000 members in more than 50 countries. I traveled extensively promoting our cause and visited over 40 countries, attended and talked at more than 100 conferences and had the very good fortune of making many friends in every culture on our planet.</p>
<p>I have occasionally been invited to collaborate on a number of books and in fact have written and contributed to more than seven including ¨An Executives Guide to BPR¨ (1994), ¨In Search of BPM Excellence: (2003), ¨The Real Time Enterprise¨, Thrive – How to Succeed in the Age of the Customer, ¨Extreme Competition¨, ¨Customer Expectation Management – Success without Exception¨. Of course there are others in the pipeline including ¨Rats on a Sinking Ship¨. The latter perhaps seems sadly more appropriate than I could ever have imagined when it was conceived last year!<br />
Throughout the last 15 years I have worked with many of you to diligently push the cause of process management into every nook and cranny of our organizations. As a community we have achieved sometimes fantastic success and at other times provided a much needed wake up call to our colleagues and co-workers.</p>
<p>In 2003 having grown the BPMG to more than 9,000 members I was joined at the helm by David Lyneham-Brown and Stewart Ashton. Mr. Ashton is the man who has now assumed Executive control of the Group and you may have seen his ‘official’ note to the community last week.</p>
<p>I am saddened at the current troubles besetting the community and hope for all our sakes that the BPMG re-emerges with its original ethos intact. Be aware I am doing and will continue to do everything within my limited power to make it so.</p>
<p>To everyone I have shared and worked alongside  – thank you. To those who have recently written and telephoned with personal support and offers of help I am humbled and very grateful. You helped to create a wonderful thing and I sincerely wish you the very best for a brighter future. </p>
<p>Kind Regards,  </p>
<p>Steve Towers - BPMG founder &#8221;</p>
<p>Hm. And then if you go to the website&#8230;</p>
<p>Welcome to Bennu Group LLC, the premier place to find the latest in thought leadership, training, workshops, conferences and resources related to all things process.</p>
<p>But why are you here?</p>
<p>You are here for a very simple reason. Due to delinquency of payment from the BPM Group to Bennu Group for services including operating the bpmg.org website you have been directed here where most of the core BPM Group staff have landed i.e. Terry Schurter, CIO; Alex Morse, Technical Director; Leah Morse, Chief Editor. Look for more on this particular subject soon  </p>
<p>We believe in the overall mission that we have always understood in respect to the BPM Group and we know we understand that mission far better than anyone else (with the possible exception of Steve Towers (stevetowers.com)who is one of our Training Coaches). We are taking the “bit in our mouths” to continue as the world’s leading organization in the pursuit of BPM Excellence.</p>
<p>We hope you stick around to see what we are doing and what we have to offer on our site. Our mission is clear and our will unrelenting - we will lead the charge in making people’s lives simpler, easier and more successful.</p>
<p>We hope we can do the same for you.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>The Bennu Group</p>
<p>Please Note:</p>
<p>The Bennu Group IS NOT affiliated with the BPM Group in any form or manner. We understand that the BPM Group has numerous commitments to many of you and though we sincerely would like to help you in determining the status of these commitments the Bennu Group does not have any means to take action or determine the status of any BPM Group activity or commitment.</p>
<p>Queries regarding BPM Group commitments or other business-related concerns are recommended to be sent to Stewart Ashton at stewart.ashton@btopenworld. This (to the best of our limited knowledge) is the new primary point of contact for the BPM Group.</p>
<p>We know this is a trying time (it is very much so for us as well) but we are confident that we will all get through this to a better, brighter place. Those of us at the Bennu Group that were associated with the BPM Group in the past are deeply saddened by the current situation. We can only say that for those who may feel they may have incurred financial risk in respect to commitments with the BPM Group that we are in the same boat with you.</p>
<p>OUCH&#8230;.<br />
I thought the BPMG organization was ok. Fairly good articles and RSS feed. </p>
<p>True, the 8 Omega stuff didn&#8217;t really seem to work. Omega and CEM seemed a collection of loose gems, basically taken from various sources, such as Lean, BPR, etc.<br />
But I do think that the BPM community needs organizations striving for BPM methods and best practices, and BPMG is (was?) a promising player&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
As an occasional reader of the BPMG newsletter and always having an arms length from them, i must say the last week has been amazing.
First Schurter and co. have acted in an incredibly unprofessional way - who would do business with these people - is this the future they are designing - "pay my invoice or i will steal your website!"
Second, BPMG are taking dirty laundry to the next level - why respond in such a childish way - me thinks thee doth protest too much.
Third would you deal with either party? I feel for the sponsors of Process2007.com especially the minor ones who's links also go to bennu.com.
There are chapters of BPMG around the world - if 2 people and their egos and greed derail it then maybe it was always built on shifting sands.
Cheers
Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
As an occasional reader of the BPMG newsletter and always having an arms length from them, i must say the last week has been amazing.<br />
First Schurter and co. have acted in an incredibly unprofessional way - who would do business with these people - is this the future they are designing - &#8220;pay my invoice or i will steal your website!&#8221;<br />
Second, BPMG are taking dirty laundry to the next level - why respond in such a childish way - me thinks thee doth protest too much.<br />
Third would you deal with either party? I feel for the sponsors of Process2007.com especially the minor ones who&#8217;s links also go to bennu.com.<br />
There are chapters of BPMG around the world - if 2 people and their egos and greed derail it then maybe it was always built on shifting sands.<br />
Cheers<br />
Daniel</p>
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