Comments on: BRF Day 2: How Business Rules Re(Define) Business Processes: A Service Oriented View http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/ BPM, Enterprise 2.0 and technology trends in business. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:18:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: #BRF How business rules and processes fit together | Primatek Consulting Blog by Eric Charpentier http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/comment-page-1/#comment-13113 #BRF How business rules and processes fit together | Primatek Consulting Blog by Eric Charpentier Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:43:56 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/#comment-13113 [...] Sandy Kemsley actually saw this presentation (or something very similar) about 2 years ago, see: http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-or... [...] [...] Sandy Kemsley actually saw this presentation (or something very similar) about 2 years ago, see: http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-or... [...]

]]> By: Sandy Kemsley http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/comment-page-1/#comment-6223 Sandy Kemsley Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:39:49 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/#comment-6223 BPM projects are being initiated by the business side more and more -- I see that in more than 50% of my customers. I believe that rules and BPM together will be driven by the business side. BPM projects are being initiated by the business side more and more — I see that in more than 50% of my customers. I believe that rules and BPM together will be driven by the business side.

]]> By: Business Rules Forum - a multi-blog wrap up http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/comment-page-1/#comment-6174 Business Rules Forum - a multi-blog wrap up Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:42:31 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/#comment-6174 [...] How Business Rules Re(Define) Business Processes: A Service Oriented View [...] [...] How Business Rules Re(Define) Business Processes: A Service Oriented View [...]

]]> By: Gene Weng http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/comment-page-1/#comment-6105 Gene Weng Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:10:51 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2007/10/brf-day-2-how-business-rules-redefine-business-processes-a-service-oriented-view/#comment-6105 Hi Sandy, Thanks for your great coverages of the forum! We can imagine a model only contains flow (this is one extreme, and it would look like a tree), and a model that all flow control logics are defined by rules (this is another extreme, the model has no flow diagram, and it would be very flexiable). In many cases, a "balanced" model makes better sense (Ron's talking about balance, right? :-)). I attended Professor Venthienen’s session in the BR forum last year. Very interesting. By the way, among projects that I have been involved so far, roughly 50% of rule projects are initiated by IT and 50% of rule projects are initiated by business. How about the BPM sides? How many BPM projects are initiated by business? Gene Hi Sandy,

Thanks for your great coverages of the forum! We can imagine a model only contains flow (this is one extreme, and it would look like a tree), and a model that all flow control logics are defined by rules (this is another extreme, the model has no flow diagram, and it would be very flexiable). In many cases, a “balanced” model makes better sense (Ron’s talking about balance, right? :-) ).

I attended Professor Venthienen’s session in the BR forum last year. Very interesting.

By the way, among projects that I have been involved so far, roughly 50% of rule projects are initiated by IT and 50% of rule projects are initiated by business. How about the BPM sides? How many BPM projects are initiated by business?

Gene

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