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	<title>Comments on: BRF Day 2: How Business Rules Re(Define) Business Processes: A Service Oriented View</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BPM projects are being initiated by the business side more and more -- I see that in more than 50% of my customers. I believe that rules and BPM together will be driven by the business side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BPM projects are being initiated by the business side more and more &#8212; I see that in more than 50% of my customers. I believe that rules and BPM together will be driven by the business side.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Weng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Weng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandy,

Thanks for your great coverages of the forum!   We can imagine a model only contains flow (this is one extreme, and it would look like a tree), and a model that all flow control logics are defined by rules (this is another extreme, the model has no flow diagram, and it would be very flexiable).     In many cases, a "balanced" model makes better sense  (Ron's talking about balance, right? :-)).    

I attended Professor Venthienen’s session in the BR forum last year.   Very interesting.

By the way, among projects that I have been involved so far, roughly 50% of rule projects are initiated by IT and 50% of rule projects are initiated by business.   How about the BPM sides?  How many BPM projects are initiated by business?

Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy,</p>
<p>Thanks for your great coverages of the forum!   We can imagine a model only contains flow (this is one extreme, and it would look like a tree), and a model that all flow control logics are defined by rules (this is another extreme, the model has no flow diagram, and it would be very flexiable).     In many cases, a &#8220;balanced&#8221; model makes better sense  (Ron&#8217;s talking about balance, right? :-)).    </p>
<p>I attended Professor Venthienen’s session in the BR forum last year.   Very interesting.</p>
<p>By the way, among projects that I have been involved so far, roughly 50% of rule projects are initiated by IT and 50% of rule projects are initiated by business.   How about the BPM sides?  How many BPM projects are initiated by business?</p>
<p>Gene</p>
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