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	<title>Comments on: Integration World Day 1: Karl-Heinz Steibich keynote</title>
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	<description>BPM, Enterprise 2.0 and technology trends in business.</description>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, since the platform vendors feel that they can cover all domains, they don't see a need for the domain-specific vendors so typically don't even consider them as competition, from what I can tell.

In general, most companies have many more processes than just their targetted line of business processes (such as loan origination), so could benefit from a BPM platform that can be used anywhere in the enterprise. In terms of BPM, I tend to stay away from domain-specific solutions unless there is a really clear reason why this can't be done with a more general-purpose tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, since the platform vendors feel that they can cover all domains, they don&#8217;t see a need for the domain-specific vendors so typically don&#8217;t even consider them as competition, from what I can tell.</p>
<p>In general, most companies have many more processes than just their targetted line of business processes (such as loan origination), so could benefit from a BPM platform that can be used anywhere in the enterprise. In terms of BPM, I tend to stay away from domain-specific solutions unless there is a really clear reason why this can&#8217;t be done with a more general-purpose tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Gilbert &#124; Perspectives in Process</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Gilbert &#124; Perspectives in Process</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New BPM, or Old AppDev?&lt;/strong&gt;

In his recent post, Neil Ward-Dutton talks about how WebMethods customers are doing traditional application development under the of Business Process Management. Folks, automating a business process is NOT business process management! Sandy Kemsley say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>New BPM, or Old AppDev?</strong></p>
<p>In his recent post, Neil Ward-Dutton talks about how WebMethods customers are doing traditional application development under the of Business Process Management. Folks, automating a business process is NOT business process management! Sandy Kemsley say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: On IT-business alignment and related things</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2007/11/integration-world-day-1-karl-heinz-steibich-keynote/#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>On IT-business alignment and related things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ah yes, it's BPM... but which BPM is it?&lt;/strong&gt;

Arch BPM blogger-cum-analyst Sandy Kemsley references an interesting conversation she had with some webMethods customers at Software AG's Integration World event where the customers "pooh pooh the BPM vendors who don't provide the whole integration ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ah yes, it&#8217;s BPM&#8230; but which BPM is it?</strong></p>
<p>Arch BPM blogger-cum-analyst Sandy Kemsley references an interesting conversation she had with some webMethods customers at Software AG&#8217;s Integration World event where the customers &#8220;pooh pooh the BPM vendors who don&#8217;t provide the whole integration &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do these types of 'platform' vendors make of domain-specific vendors who are producing composite products? My own example is a product called Rapport from International Decision Systems (IDS); it a loan/lease origination system, which each buyer configures to, among other things, define your own processes and business rules. It also uses Web Services to connect to other systems, internal or external.

My employer has just purchased the product, so I will be part of that configuration process, but our customer checks showed that the product does work as advertised. I would like to hear what you think of this kind of product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do these types of &#8216;platform&#8217; vendors make of domain-specific vendors who are producing composite products? My own example is a product called Rapport from International Decision Systems (IDS); it a loan/lease origination system, which each buyer configures to, among other things, define your own processes and business rules. It also uses Web Services to connect to other systems, internal or external.</p>
<p>My employer has just purchased the product, so I will be part of that configuration process, but our customer checks showed that the product does work as advertised. I would like to hear what you think of this kind of product.</p>
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