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	<title>Comments on: links for 2009-02-17</title>
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		<title>By: Carter Lusher</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2009/02/links-for-2009-02-17/comment-page-1/#comment-10903</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter Lusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandy, Thanks for the link.

As a former Gartner Research Fellow and someone who talks on a regular basis to analysts from all the major analyst firms that put on events, I know that the vast, vast majority of analysts simply do not incorporate whether or not a vendor sponsors an event into the relationship. Another data point is that I use to be the director Corporate AR at one of the largest vendors and when I told analysts I would not see them at one of their conferences because my company was not sponsoring all I got was a shrug.

For one thing, analysts are not measured nor bonused on vendor sponsorships. That is even more the case during a recession when companies in all industries are cutting back on travel, marketing sponsorships, etc. While a sales rep might be frantic to close some deal, the analysts don&#039;t care. 

Your point about &quot;Many vendors indicate privately that they are afraid...&quot; is a quite common attitude. But that does not make it true. Same urban myth that surrounds buying annual subscription contracts

http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/analyst-integrity-issues-the-urban-legend-that-wont-die/

While having an annual subscription provides useful tools, such as inquiry, the mere act of signing the check does not do a vendor any good. It is what the vendor does after they sign the check that is useful. A vendor that buys a million dollars of advisory seats but whose people never make inquiry calls will find itself out influenced by a vendor with a single $25k advisory seat but who leverages the access to analysts on a frequent basis.

BTW, Gartner is a $1.2 billion corporate, Forrester had $241m in 2008 revenues. Any particular sponsorship is an accounting rounding error and probably less than what the firms spend on paperclips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy, Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>As a former Gartner Research Fellow and someone who talks on a regular basis to analysts from all the major analyst firms that put on events, I know that the vast, vast majority of analysts simply do not incorporate whether or not a vendor sponsors an event into the relationship. Another data point is that I use to be the director Corporate AR at one of the largest vendors and when I told analysts I would not see them at one of their conferences because my company was not sponsoring all I got was a shrug.</p>
<p>For one thing, analysts are not measured nor bonused on vendor sponsorships. That is even more the case during a recession when companies in all industries are cutting back on travel, marketing sponsorships, etc. While a sales rep might be frantic to close some deal, the analysts don&#8217;t care. </p>
<p>Your point about &#8220;Many vendors indicate privately that they are afraid&#8230;&#8221; is a quite common attitude. But that does not make it true. Same urban myth that surrounds buying annual subscription contracts</p>
<p><a href="http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/analyst-integrity-issues-the-urban-legend-that-wont-die/" rel="nofollow">http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/analyst-integrity-issues-the-urban-legend-that-wont-die/</a></p>
<p>While having an annual subscription provides useful tools, such as inquiry, the mere act of signing the check does not do a vendor any good. It is what the vendor does after they sign the check that is useful. A vendor that buys a million dollars of advisory seats but whose people never make inquiry calls will find itself out influenced by a vendor with a single $25k advisory seat but who leverages the access to analysts on a frequent basis.</p>
<p>BTW, Gartner is a $1.2 billion corporate, Forrester had $241m in 2008 revenues. Any particular sponsorship is an accounting rounding error and probably less than what the firms spend on paperclips.</p>
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		<title>By: Harald Nehring</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2009/02/links-for-2009-02-17/comment-page-1/#comment-10902</link>
		<dc:creator>Harald Nehring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy, you&#039;re touching on a very sensitive issue here! It reminds me of other &quot;chinese walls&quot; between the analysing and investing side of a bank or the advertising and journalistic sides of a publisher. Normally it&#039;s in the best interest of the respective company to maintain the separation, but in times like these salespeople are getting _very_ creative, I can tell you. At the end we have to know that they invest in &quot;thought leadership&quot; (aka financial analysis, global news, industry analysis) to gain the credibility required to attract investors, advertizers or event sponsors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy, you&#8217;re touching on a very sensitive issue here! It reminds me of other &#8220;chinese walls&#8221; between the analysing and investing side of a bank or the advertising and journalistic sides of a publisher. Normally it&#8217;s in the best interest of the respective company to maintain the separation, but in times like these salespeople are getting _very_ creative, I can tell you. At the end we have to know that they invest in &#8220;thought leadership&#8221; (aka financial analysis, global news, industry analysis) to gain the credibility required to attract investors, advertizers or event sponsors.</p>
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