Comments on: In Honour of Ada Lovelace http://www.column2.com/2009/03/in-honour-of-ada-lovelace/ BPM, Enterprise 2.0 and technology trends in business. Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:15:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: James Benedict http://www.column2.com/2009/03/in-honour-of-ada-lovelace/comment-page-1/#comment-11084 James Benedict Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:27:58 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/03/in-honour-of-ada-lovelace/#comment-11084 Hello Sandy, My name is James Benedict. Recently, I listened to your Webcast titled, "Pragmatic BPM and SOA". The presentation was okay I suppose. I am not that "technical" (sigh). I know how to do process modeling using in many standard notations such as BPMN, EPC, IDEF0, and SIPOC. I also know how to do ERD diagrams/data modeling (conceptual, logical, and physical). I suppose you can say I am a bit "technical" also. But, when it comes to SOA, I am totally lost. My mind does not grasp "services". What are they? Is there a visual representation of a "service"? What are the metadata associated with a given service (such as definition, attributes etc)? I know now what you are thinking... ... Yes, it is true, people like me still do exist with such lack of understanding. You also mentioned, processes can call services from a service layer. Now, this is over my head. I understand from a programming perspective that a given program can call other sub program to perform certain function during its execution. Will this sub-program be called a "service" then? If so, how does a service can be defined before it is written as a program? Well, if you can provide me with some examples of a service and take me down the path of business process calling a service...then, I would be jumping with joy! Because, I would comprehend ! As of now, my mind is spinning!! more questions later.... Thanks. Jb Hello Sandy,
My name is James Benedict. Recently, I listened to your Webcast titled, “Pragmatic BPM and SOA”. The presentation was okay I suppose. I am not that “technical” (sigh). I know how to do process modeling using in many standard notations such as BPMN, EPC, IDEF0, and SIPOC. I also know how to do ERD diagrams/data modeling (conceptual, logical, and physical). I suppose you can say I am a bit “technical” also. But, when it comes to SOA, I am totally lost. My mind does not grasp “services”. What are they? Is there a visual representation of a “service”? What are the metadata associated with a given service (such as definition, attributes etc)?
I know now what you are thinking… … Yes, it is true, people like me still do exist with such lack of understanding.
You also mentioned, processes can call services from a service layer. Now, this is over my head. I understand from a programming perspective that a given program can call other sub program to perform certain function during its execution. Will this sub-program be called a “service” then? If so, how does a service can be defined before it is written as a program?
Well, if you can provide me with some examples of a service and take me down the path of business process calling a service…then, I would be jumping with joy! Because, I would comprehend ! As of now, my mind is spinning!!

more questions later….

Thanks.

Jb

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