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	<title>Comments on: links for 2009-06-29</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2009/06/links-for-2009-06-29/comment-page-1/#comment-11428</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said &quot;a&quot; primary driver, not &quot;the&quot; primary driver: obviously, there are others, but Brandon places a lot of stress on that point. I&#039;ve seen a lot of deficiencies on the part of BPMS, as well as any services layer over legacy systems; maybe I&#039;m just working with less-capable BPMS than you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said &#8220;a&#8221; primary driver, not &#8220;the&#8221; primary driver: obviously, there are others, but Brandon places a lot of stress on that point. I&#8217;ve seen a lot of deficiencies on the part of BPMS, as well as any services layer over legacy systems; maybe I&#8217;m just working with less-capable BPMS than you <img src='http://www.column2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2009/06/links-for-2009-06-29/comment-page-1/#comment-11424</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: unified UI as primary driver - actually i think that is taking the positioning too far.  even when swivel chair is still required, BPM can be the glue that routes the work to the right person at the right time, or brings them the set of contextual process information they need to get the job done.  the primary driver of value is that BPM can make the interaction of people and systems make sense, and can synthesize these disparate parts into meaningful logical processes. 

Also, as for the deficiencies - these deficiencies are more often on the side of the legacy systems rather than the BPMS tooling.  And it probably doesn&#039;t make sense to stop the BPM bus so that a legacy system can be web services enabled-  when that system catches up, you can link it up to your process at that point in time (some time in the future).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: unified UI as primary driver &#8211; actually i think that is taking the positioning too far.  even when swivel chair is still required, BPM can be the glue that routes the work to the right person at the right time, or brings them the set of contextual process information they need to get the job done.  the primary driver of value is that BPM can make the interaction of people and systems make sense, and can synthesize these disparate parts into meaningful logical processes. </p>
<p>Also, as for the deficiencies &#8211; these deficiencies are more often on the side of the legacy systems rather than the BPMS tooling.  And it probably doesn&#8217;t make sense to stop the BPM bus so that a legacy system can be web services enabled-  when that system catches up, you can link it up to your process at that point in time (some time in the future).</p>
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