Comments on: Fujitsu process discovery case study #GartnerBPM http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/ BPM, Enterprise 2.0 and technology trends in business. Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:15:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rajiv Onat http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-14285 Rajiv Onat Thu, 20 May 2010 18:34:28 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-14285 Sarath, Our discovery tool does not introspect codes, only transacational data from application logs or the app database. The result of our analysis is the factual representation of the current state of business processes that potentially spans across multiple applications or systems with ability to analyze from different view points. Thanks, Rajiv Sarath,

Our discovery tool does not introspect codes, only transacational data from application logs or the app database. The result of our analysis is the factual representation of the current state of business processes that potentially spans across multiple applications or systems with ability to analyze from different view points.

Thanks,
Rajiv

]]> By: Sandy Kemsley http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-14283 Sandy Kemsley Thu, 20 May 2010 18:11:31 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-14283 Sarath, I don't work for Fujitsu so don't know exactly how it works, but my understanding based on briefings and presentations is that it uses the log files, not the code. I'll ping Rajiv and see if he can come back here and address your questions more fully. Sarath, I don’t work for Fujitsu so don’t know exactly how it works, but my understanding based on briefings and presentations is that it uses the log files, not the code.

I’ll ping Rajiv and see if he can come back here and address your questions more fully.

]]> By: Sarath Annareddy http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-14269 Sarath Annareddy Tue, 18 May 2010 23:36:18 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-14269 Does APD tool goes through the code also along with transaction log data to find the the long and short paths based on code(java, shell script, Cobol etc) analysis? It would be great if we could get that kind of information... Does APD tool goes through the code also along with transaction log data to find the the long and short paths based on code(java, shell script, Cobol etc) analysis? It would be great if we could get that kind of information…

]]> By: Fujitsu Interstage BPM V11 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-13169 Fujitsu Interstage BPM V11 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:09:44 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-13169 [...] however, is what happens behind the scenes with these dynamic processes during execution: the automated discovery engine, which is now part of the analytics, tracks all the ad hoc subtasks, and can make suggestions on [...] [...] however, is what happens behind the scenes with these dynamic processes during execution: the automated discovery engine, which is now part of the analytics, tracks all the ad hoc subtasks, and can make suggestions on [...]

]]> By: Sandy Kemsley http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-12931 Sandy Kemsley Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:07:59 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-12931 Rajiv, I look forward to seeing the new version -- bringing other forms of capture into process discovery should prove interesting. Rajiv, I look forward to seeing the new version — bringing other forms of capture into process discovery should prove interesting.

]]> By: Process Improvement: Informed & Lean « Thoughts on Collaborative Planning http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-12878 Process Improvement: Informed & Lean « Thoughts on Collaborative Planning Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:55:54 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-12878 [...] which would have more than made up for the effort of doing the discovery.”   Also, see the blog post from Sandy Kemsley covering this use [...] [...] which would have more than made up for the effort of doing the discovery.”   Also, see the blog post from Sandy Kemsley covering this use [...]

]]> By: Eastwick Communications Client Coverage » Fujitsu America featured in Column 2: “Fujitsu process discovery case study #GartnerBPM” http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-12758 Eastwick Communications Client Coverage » Fujitsu America featured in Column 2: “Fujitsu process discovery case study #GartnerBPM” Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:13:59 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-12758 [...] full article here addthis_url = [...] [...] full article here addthis_url = [...]

]]> By: Rajiv Onat http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-12477 Rajiv Onat Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:07:31 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-12477 Thank you for attending our session and for the great summary. Regarding the point about manual steps, its true that those parts will not be in the analysis, however the tool will give you better perspective on where those manual steps are occuring for example if there is long transition time from one step to other that is usally an indication of the possibility of manual activities which allows organization to focus on the those steps and to confirm if there was indeed manual activities or people hibernating -:) and in the process capture those steps in their core business process. With the combination of Dynamic BPM and discovery of unstructured process being rolled into our new version this month we hope to close that gap as well. By the way it was Ivar Alexander from Fujitsu who did the demo. Thank you for attending our session and for the great summary. Regarding the point about manual steps, its true that those parts will not be in the analysis, however the tool will give you better perspective on where those manual steps are occuring for example if there is long transition time from one step to other that is usally an indication of the possibility of manual activities which allows organization to focus on the those steps and to confirm if there was indeed manual activities or people hibernating -:) and in the process capture those steps in their core business process. With the combination of Dynamic BPM and discovery of unstructured process being rolled into our new version this month we hope to close that gap as well. By the way it was Ivar Alexander from Fujitsu who did the demo.

]]> By: Process for the Enterprise » Blog Archive » Following Gartner’s #BPM Conference #GartnerBPM http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/comment-page-1/#comment-12456 Process for the Enterprise » Blog Archive » Following Gartner’s #BPM Conference #GartnerBPM Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:12:06 +0000 http://www.column2.com/2009/10/fujitsu-process-discovery-case-study-gartnerbpm/#comment-12456 [...] notes from the Fujitsu process discovery case study, using an automated process to “discover” a process, rather than manually defining [...] [...] notes from the Fujitsu process discovery case study, using an automated process to “discover” a process, rather than manually defining [...]

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