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		<title>By: Salesforce’s Peter Coffee On The Cloud</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2010/03/salesforce-releases-force-com-visual-process-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-18608</link>
		<dc:creator>Salesforce’s Peter Coffee On The Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] specifically of Salesforce or the Force.com application development platform (except for a briefing that I had over a year ago on their Visual Process Manager), but I’m a big fan of building applications in the cloud for many of the reasons that Coffee [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] specifically of Salesforce or the Force.com application development platform (except for a briefing that I had over a year ago on their Visual Process Manager), but I’m a big fan of building applications in the cloud for many of the reasons that Coffee [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Column 2 : Salesforce&#8217;s Peter Coffee On The Cloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Column 2 : Salesforce&#8217;s Peter Coffee On The Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] specifically of Salesforce or the Force.com application development platform (except for a briefing that I had over a year ago on their Visual Process Manager), but I’m a big fan of building applications in the cloud for many of the reasons that Coffee [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] specifically of Salesforce or the Force.com application development platform (except for a briefing that I had over a year ago on their Visual Process Manager), but I’m a big fan of building applications in the cloud for many of the reasons that Coffee [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italio (www.intalio.com)  And, while not a desktop app...check out http://www.runmyprocess.com/ (i.e., also available on the Google App marketplace.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italio (www.intalio.com)  And, while not a desktop app&#8230;check out <a href="http://www.runmyprocess.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.runmyprocess.com/</a> (i.e., also available on the Google App marketplace.)</p>
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		<title>By: TIBCO ActiveMatrix BPM In Depth</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2010/03/salesforce-releases-force-com-visual-process-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-14724</link>
		<dc:creator>TIBCO ActiveMatrix BPM In Depth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] similar to the capabilities emerging in web application platforms such as NetSuite’s SuiteFlow, Salesforce’s Visual Process Manager and the process modeling within OutSystems, except in this case, the page flow is what happens at a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] similar to the capabilities emerging in web application platforms such as NetSuite’s SuiteFlow, Salesforce’s Visual Process Manager and the process modeling within OutSystems, except in this case, the page flow is what happens at a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some that are non-Eclipse desktop discovery tools: Process Master and Savvion&#039;s process modeler (now owned by Progress Software) are two. I believe that these are both Windows apps, since that&#039;s where the bulk of the market is, so you may have to try them out in Parallels if you have to carry a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some that are non-Eclipse desktop discovery tools: Process Master and Savvion&#8217;s process modeler (now owned by Progress Software) are two. I believe that these are both Windows apps, since that&#8217;s where the bulk of the market is, so you may have to try them out in Parallels if you have to carry a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy

Doesn&#039;t have to be desktop (though working on a plane is a regular requirement :-)).  But with respect, your answer illustrates part of the problem.  Eclipse is  not, IMHO, a framework that can be set up by business folks.  And most SMEs don&#039;t have (or want to buy) expertise to do so!

Yes on capture and document only!  The rest is a dream.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t have to be desktop (though working on a plane is a regular requirement <img src='http://www.column2.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  But with respect, your answer illustrates part of the problem.  Eclipse is  not, IMHO, a framework that can be set up by business folks.  And most SMEs don&#8217;t have (or want to buy) expertise to do so!</p>
<p>Yes on capture and document only!  The rest is a dream.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, I don&#039;t know of any tools specifically for the Mac, although there are many that are either web-based or run in an Eclipse framework so likely would run on a Mac. By &quot;BPM&quot;, it appears that you mean process discovery, that is, mapping and documenting the processes, but not creating an executable process. There are many of these both in the cloud and in desktop versions, including those offered for free on the web in various online BPM communities such as ARISalign and BPM Blueworks. Do you specifically need a desktop tool versus a web-based tool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, I don&#8217;t know of any tools specifically for the Mac, although there are many that are either web-based or run in an Eclipse framework so likely would run on a Mac. By &#8220;BPM&#8221;, it appears that you mean process discovery, that is, mapping and documenting the processes, but not creating an executable process. There are many of these both in the cloud and in desktop versions, including those offered for free on the web in various online BPM communities such as ARISalign and BPM Blueworks. Do you specifically need a desktop tool versus a web-based tool?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy,

Do you know of any simple (by which i mean easy to use, intuitive, etc) BPM tools that run on the desktop (prefer Mac) and can be used by BUSINESS managers and small businesses to capture the flows that need to be in place.  It can do no more than tat and it would be good.  

My dream has always been that there is such a tool that is a front to a &#039;press a button and make it happen form cloud + desktop components&#039; type service.

Perhaps one day.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy,</p>
<p>Do you know of any simple (by which i mean easy to use, intuitive, etc) BPM tools that run on the desktop (prefer Mac) and can be used by BUSINESS managers and small businesses to capture the flows that need to be in place.  It can do no more than tat and it would be good.  </p>
<p>My dream has always been that there is such a tool that is a front to a &#8216;press a button and make it happen form cloud + desktop components&#8217; type service.</p>
<p>Perhaps one day&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another BPM Acquisition: Pega buys Chordiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another BPM Acquisition: Pega buys Chordiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Visual Process Designer to Force.com.  (of course, Sandy Kemsley points out that suddenly it is hard to find information on how the Visual Process Designer works&#8230; they took the video private for example [...]</description>
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