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	<title>Comments on: Selling BPM to your Organization</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2011/04/selling-bpm-to-your-organization/comment-page-1/#comment-18527</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 12:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicholas, if you look at a history of the term BPM, it was used by the analysts (Gartner and Forrester) in the early 2000&#039;s to mean process improvement and automation technology. Then, some change happened, and by 2005, they were both giving it dual definitions: the methodologies of process improvement (including things such as Six Sigma that can be completely independent of technology) plus the technology to support and automate process improvement. I feel that it was a confusing shift, and that the term BPM probably should have been left tied to technology, while using some other term (process improvement, perhaps?) for the methodologies. However, that&#039;s not how the analysts are currently defining the market, so I have to be careful to say BPMS when I mean the technology, and BPM when I mean the methodology. Often, I slip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas, if you look at a history of the term BPM, it was used by the analysts (Gartner and Forrester) in the early 2000&#8242;s to mean process improvement and automation technology. Then, some change happened, and by 2005, they were both giving it dual definitions: the methodologies of process improvement (including things such as Six Sigma that can be completely independent of technology) plus the technology to support and automate process improvement. I feel that it was a confusing shift, and that the term BPM probably should have been left tied to technology, while using some other term (process improvement, perhaps?) for the methodologies. However, that&#8217;s not how the analysts are currently defining the market, so I have to be careful to say BPMS when I mean the technology, and BPM when I mean the methodology. Often, I slip.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas kitson</title>
		<link>http://www.column2.com/2011/04/selling-bpm-to-your-organization/comment-page-1/#comment-18523</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas kitson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In had a very heated debate today on what is BPM. The question was can you have BPM without a technology solution to support the change.  The argument put forward was that as BPM is a management as well as a technology view you can do process improvement, for example a lean six sigma project and still call this a BPM project.  I vehementLY disagreed and stated that BPM is about process improvement techniques support by technology solutions.  If the technology aspect is not present it is not BPM it is something else.  What&#039;s your view?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In had a very heated debate today on what is BPM. The question was can you have BPM without a technology solution to support the change.  The argument put forward was that as BPM is a management as well as a technology view you can do process improvement, for example a lean six sigma project and still call this a BPM project.  I vehementLY disagreed and stated that BPM is about process improvement techniques support by technology solutions.  If the technology aspect is not present it is not BPM it is something else.  What&#8217;s your view?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Kemsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Kemsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brandon, they&#039;re not equivalent, but often go hand-in-hand since establishing a governance model is usually done by the BPCC as it formalizes. I agree, a lot of governance models don&#039;t fit all that well with agile/iterative methodologies; I meet a lot of resistance there as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, they&#8217;re not equivalent, but often go hand-in-hand since establishing a governance model is usually done by the BPCC as it formalizes. I agree, a lot of governance models don&#8217;t fit all that well with agile/iterative methodologies; I meet a lot of resistance there as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does a BPCC equate to a BPM Governance model?  It would be interesting to hear Gartner&#039;s perspective on utilizing a BPM Governance model in conjunction with an iterative approach to BPM implementation.  One of the larger challenges our clients are facing is migrating to an agile/iterative methodology and trying to fit inside of a rigid governance model that is more focused on traditional command and control chains of command.

Success should be defined much broader than how many BPM projects are sold within an organization.  The ability to successfully deliver projects and drive business value is a much better measuring stick IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does a BPCC equate to a BPM Governance model?  It would be interesting to hear Gartner&#8217;s perspective on utilizing a BPM Governance model in conjunction with an iterative approach to BPM implementation.  One of the larger challenges our clients are facing is migrating to an agile/iterative methodology and trying to fit inside of a rigid governance model that is more focused on traditional command and control chains of command.</p>
<p>Success should be defined much broader than how many BPM projects are sold within an organization.  The ability to successfully deliver projects and drive business value is a much better measuring stick IMHO.</p>
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